{"id":33629,"date":"2025-08-17T01:00:56","date_gmt":"2025-08-17T01:00:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/garfnet.org.uk\/cms\/?p=33629"},"modified":"2025-08-18T21:02:34","modified_gmt":"2025-08-18T21:02:34","slug":"my-grandstream-ht801-forgets-my-new-password-after-a-while-why","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/garfnet.org.uk\/cms\/2025\/08\/17\/my-grandstream-ht801-forgets-my-new-password-after-a-while-why\/","title":{"rendered":"My Grandstream HT801 forgets my new password after a while. Why? SOLVED!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Finally got decent fibre to the property (FttP) broadband here on Hampshire&#8217;s new high-speed &#8220;CityFIbre&#8221; network as retailed by local provider &#8216;toob&#8217;. I immediately took the opportunity to dump the appallingly poor internet provided by a British outfit called Global4, that we&#8217;d put-up with for the last decade or so. Which also meant I could dump my ludicrously expensive British Telecom landline too. Instead I decided to move my telephone number over to a British-based VOIP (voice over internet protocol) company called Voipfone. It also sold me a preconfigured Grandstream HT801 VOIP adaptor, so I could use a standard BT handset rather than having to fork out of some fancy dedicated VOIP telephone setup.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"--darkreader-inline-bgcolor: var(--darkreader-background-33cccc, #29a3a3);\">Well, a couple of days later, the Grandstream HT801 VOIP adaptor arrived from Voipfone. <\/span><span style=\"--darkreader-inline-bgcolor: var(--darkreader-background-33cccc, #29a3a3);\">So, I connected its Ethernet port to a spare LAN socket on my router, plugged in my old Panasonic DECT (<span class=\"expandableItem\">Digital Enhanced Cordless Telecommunication<\/span>) telephone system into the RJ11 socket, and connected the 5 volt USB micro-B power supply. I waited a couple of minutes until all the three blue lights came on and bingo &#8211; a dial tone. The phone worked! <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"--darkreader-inline-bgcolor: var(--darkreader-background-33cccc, #29a3a3);\">So I changed the admin password in my new Grandstream HT801 from the one entered by its supplier. I made a note of the new admin&nbsp; password in my KeepassXC. I then congratulated myself with a wee slug of scotch and went on and did something else.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"--darkreader-inline-bgcolor: var(--darkreader-background-33cccc, #29a3a3);\">But when I tried to login again a few days later. my new admin password did not work. In fact, I was locked out of my own device for several hours. Until I realised what was going on, and I tried the original admin password provided by Voipfone. This let me straight in. I<\/span> thought perhaps I had forgotten to &#8216;<em>Apply<\/em>&#8216; the changes I&#8217;d made. So I repeated the operation again, very slowly and carefully. Sure enough, after a few minutes, the device reverted back to the admin password provided by Voipfone.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>I tried several browsers<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Chromium 138.0.7204.157 (Official Build) built on Debian GNU\/Linux 13 (trixie) (64-bit)<\/li>\n<li>Firefox 140.0esr (64-bit)<\/li>\n<li>Firefox Developer 141.0b9 (64-bit)<\/li>\n<li>Konqueror 25.04.0<\/li>\n<li><span class=\"version__label\">Opera One <\/span><span class=\"version__value\">(version: 120.0.5543.93)<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>All the above web browsers did exactly the same. I&#8217;d change my admin password. But within a few minutes, the admin password would revert back to the password provided by Voipfone!&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>Not Alone<\/h2>\n<p>Seems I am not alone. There is quite a long Reddit thread on the subject.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"reddit-embed-bq\" style=\"height:316px\" ><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/VOIP\/comments\/10sxgz6\/grandstream_ht801_wont_store_password\/\">Grandstream HT801 won&#39;t store password<\/a><br \/> by<a href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/user\/enhompe\/\">u\/enhompe<\/a> in<a href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/VOIP\/\">VOIP<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/embed.reddit.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"UTF-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>The cause<\/h2>\n<p>Transpires that in my case, the problem is caused by Voipfone&#8217;s provisioning server. Ironically, even Voipfone didn&#8217;t seem to know it was doing this. In fact I had a fairly prolonged discussion with Voipfone&#8217;s techies, who I have to say were commendably patient and helpful. They suggested that I should ban Voipfone&#8217;s provisioning server &#8220;<em>grandstream.provu.co.uk 80 443<\/em>&#8221; using my router&#8217;s firewall. Well this certainly is <em>a<\/em> solution. However, in my opinion, this is <em>not<\/em> a particularly <em>good<\/em> solution. Problem is that other users may wish to access that site for some reason. Worse, if the firewall ban is undone, even temporarily, then after a short while, one&#8217;s admin password gets overwritten again. So I&#8217;m back to <em>square one<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>I needed a simple, reversible solution that would <em>only<\/em> affect the Grandstream device and <em>nothing<\/em> else on my LAN.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2><em>TL;DR<\/em> a simple and easily reversed solution<\/h2>\n<p>Fortunately, having given the matter a lot of thought, I found that there was a simpler solution for me, that I thought I&#8217;d share here, in case someone else was as perplexed by this as I was. The trick is simply remove the provisioning server from the Grandstream&#8217;s &#8220;<em>Advanced Settings<\/em>&#8221; page. Here&#8217;s how&#8230;<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Log into your Grandstream HT801 or HT802 as admin.<\/li>\n<li>Go to the &#8220;<em>Advanced Settings<\/em>&#8221; page.<\/li>\n<li>Scroll down to the &#8220;<i>Firmware Upgrade and Provisioning:<\/i>&#8221; section<\/li>\n<li>Make a note of the current provisioning server stated in the &#8220;<em>Config Server Path:<\/em>&#8221; box &#8211; in my case &#8220;<em>grandstream.provu.co.uk<\/em>&#8221;\n<p><figure style=\"width: 1416px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/garfnet.org.uk\/cms\/wp-content\/gallery\/screengrab\/Screenshot_20250816_213521.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"ngg-singlepic ngg-center\" src=\"https:\/\/garfnet.org.uk\/cms\/wp-content\/gallery\/screengrab\/Screenshot_20250816_213521.png\" alt=\"Screenshot showing&quot;Config Server Path:&quot; box\" width=\"1416\" height=\"984\"><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Screenshot showing&#8221;Config Server Path:&#8221; box<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/li>\n<li>Then delete the address in the &#8220;<em>Config Server Path:<\/em>&#8221; box &#8211; in my case &#8220;<em>grandstream.provu.co.uk<\/em>&#8220;<\/li>\n<li>Scroll down to the bottom of the page<\/li>\n<li>Click &#8220;<em>Apply<\/em>&#8220;.<\/li>\n<li>Click &#8220;<em>Update<\/em>&#8220;.<\/li>\n<li>Scroll to the top of the &#8220;Advanced Settings&#8221; page, and enter your preferred password &#8211; first making a note of the password that Voipfone (or whoever your provider is) gave you, and of course, make a note of your new password too! \ud83d\ude09<\/li>\n<li>Scroll down to the bottom of the page<\/li>\n<li>Click &#8220;<em>Apply<\/em>&#8220;.<\/li>\n<li>Click &#8220;<em>Update<\/em>&#8220;.<\/li>\n<li>Click &#8220;<em>Reboot<\/em>&#8220;.\n<p><figure style=\"width: 1416px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/garfnet.org.uk\/cms\/wp-content\/gallery\/screengrab\/Screenshot_20250816_213542.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"ngg-singlepic ngg-center\" src=\"https:\/\/garfnet.org.uk\/cms\/wp-content\/gallery\/screengrab\/Screenshot_20250816_213542.png\" alt=\"Screenshot showing &quot;Update&quot; Apply&quot; and &quot;Reboot&quot; buttons.\" width=\"1416\" height=\"984\"><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Screenshot showing &#8220;Update&#8221; Apply&#8221; and &#8220;Reboot&#8221; buttons.<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/li>\n<li>Wait a few minutes, and you&#8217;re done.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<h2>To reverse this solution<\/h2>\n<ol>\n<li>Do the first three things listed in the instructions above.<\/li>\n<li>Type (or paste) your VOIP provider&#8217;s provisioning server back into the empty&nbsp;&#8220;<em>Config Server Path:<\/em>&#8221; box.<\/li>\n<li>Your password will almost certainly be reset to your VIOP provider&#8217;s password, as soon as the device connects to the provider&#8217;s provisioning server. So there is no point changing this.<\/li>\n<li>Do the things stated from number 10 onwards, listed in the instructions above.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>That&#8217;s it. If your Grandstream HT801 keeps forgetting <em>your<\/em> new admin password, and this solution fixes the problem for you, then please let me know. \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<h2>Useful links<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Voipfone &#8211; one of Britain&#8217;s better VOIP providers, with good, knowledgeable tech support.<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/voipfone.co.uk\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">https:\/\/voipfone.co.uk<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Grandstream HT801\/802 user manual. Mine came only with a single page printed sheet, no actual manual. (PDF)<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.grandstream.com\/hubfs\/Product_Documentation\/ht80x_user_guide.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">https:\/\/www.grandstream.com\/hubfs\/Product_Documentation\/ht80x_user_guide.pdf<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Grandstream HT801 quick user guide. Some quick tips about using the device&#8217;s more advanced dialling features. (PDF)<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.grandstream.com\/hubfs\/Product_Documentation\/HT801_Quick_User_Guide_English.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">https:\/\/www.grandstream.com\/hubfs\/Product_Documentation\/HT801_Quick_User_Guide_English.pdf<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Finally got decent fibre to the property (FttP) broadband here on Hampshire&#8217;s new high-speed &#8220;CityFIbre&#8221; network as retailed by local provider &#8216;toob&#8217;. I immediately took the opportunity to dump the appallingly poor internet provided by a British outfit called Global4, that we&#8217;d put-up with for the last decade or so. 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